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šIn this special episode recorded live at the 7th International Fascial Research Congress in New Orleans, Til Luchau gathers conversations with leading researchers, educators, and practitioners from around the world. From collagen synthesis breakthroughs to fascia typologies, scar tissue management, mental imagery, and integrative perspectives on touch and movement, this episode captures the excitement and connections at the forefront of fascia research.
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- Whitney Loweās site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.comĀ
- Til Luchauās site: Advanced-Trainings.com Ā
About Whitney LoweĀ | About Til LuchauĀ |Ā Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Sep 03, 2025
152. Does Pressure Matter? What the Research Says (with Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe)
Wednesday Sep 03, 2025
Wednesday Sep 03, 2025
šIn this intriguing episode, Til and Whitney dig into a recent study that tested the effects of pressure in myofascial releaseācomparing a traditional pressure-based technique with a light-touch "sham" version. The study measured changes in pain sensitivity, neck mobility, and proprioception.
What did the study find? And what can that teach us about technique, touch, and the therapeutic encounter? Join us as we unpack the design, outcomes, and broader implications of this fascinating studyāand reflect on what really makes manual therapy effective.
š Key Topics:
- 00:47 - Study Introduction - Exploring immediate effects of suboccipital myofascial release on pain thresholds, range of motion, and proprioception
- 04:38 - Research Design - Comparing pressure-based technique vs. "sham" light touch treatment in 30 healthy adults
- 08:45 - Sham Treatment Challenges - Why creating control groups is particularly difficult in manual therapy research
- 12:18 - Measurement Methods - Pain pressure threshold, cervical range of motion, and proprioception repositioning tests
- 14:58 - Surprising Results - Both pressure and light touch groups showed similar improvements with no statistical difference
- 18:14 - Contextual Effects - Everything beyond technique that influences outcomes: environment, expectations, touch quality, practitioner skill
- 19:44 - Technique vs. Context Debate - Does this prove technique doesn't matter, or highlight the importance of how we deliver treatment?
- 26:16 - Anatomical Considerations - Suboccipital muscles, proprioceptors, and precision-oriented treatment approaches
- 30:00 - Research Limitations - Small sample size, no follow-up, immediate effects only, practitioner experience factors
- 34:12 - Clinical Takeaways - The "magic" of touch and importance of human connection in therapeutic outcomes
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- Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at:Ā academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet
- Tilās upcoming retreat, Finding Balance in an Out-of-Balance World, happening March 2026 in Thailand. Use code āthinkingā for $100 off: https://a-t.tv/thailand-retreat-2026/Ā Ā
š” Join the Conversation: Share your thoughts with us! info@thethinkingpractitioner.comĀ
⨠Rate, review, and share! Help others discover The Thinking Practitioner podcast.
š Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!Ā
- Whitney Loweās site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.comĀ
- Til Luchauās site: Advanced-Trainings.com Ā
About Whitney LoweĀ | About Til LuchauĀ |Ā Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Aug 20, 2025
151: Finding Balance in an Out-of-Balance World (with Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe)
Wednesday Aug 20, 2025
Wednesday Aug 20, 2025
šWhat does it mean to find balanceāwhen the world around us feels anything but balanced? Til and Whitney explore the many meanings of ābalance,ā from physical coordination and structural asymmetry to emotional regulation, interoception, and life rhythm. Drawing on neuroscience, somatics, and their own experience as bodyworkers, they reflect on how balance isnāt a fixed pointābut a dynamic process of continual adaptation.
Whether youāre a practitioner looking to stay grounded in caregiving roles, or just navigating modern overwhelm, this episode offers practical insights and embodied metaphors to help you stay centered.
⨠Inspired by Tilās upcoming retreat, Finding Balance in an Out-of-Balance World, happening March 2026 in Thailand. Sign up now with a $350 deposit, and use code āthinkingā for $100: https://a-t.tv/thailand-retreat-2026/Ā
š Key Topics:
š Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeĀ
Sponsor Offers:Ā
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.Ā
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.Ā
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering āthinkingā at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/,.
- Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at:Ā academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet
- Tilās upcoming retreat, Finding Balance in an Out-of-Balance World, happening March 2026 in Thailand. Use code āthinkingā for $100 off: https://a-t.tv/thailand-retreat-2026/Ā Ā
š” Join the Conversation: Share your thoughts with us! info@thethinkingpractitioner.comĀ
⨠Rate, review, and share! Help others discover The Thinking Practitioner podcast.
š Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!Ā
- Whitney Loweās site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.comĀ
- Til Luchauās site: Advanced-Trainings.com Ā
About Whitney LoweĀ | About Til LuchauĀ |Ā Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Aug 06, 2025
150: Listener Favorite: Fascia, Fitness, and Feeling (with Robert Schleip)
Wednesday Aug 06, 2025
Wednesday Aug 06, 2025
Rebroadcast: One of our most popular episodes (Ep 45), shared again in honor of the upcoming Fascia Research Congress.
šIn this lively and far-reaching conversation, fascia researcher and manual therapy pioneer Robert Schleip returns to talk with Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe about the newly expanded second edition of Fascia in Sport and Movement. They explore whatās new in fascia science, how manual therapy and movement are evolving, and how fascia functions as a sensory and fluid-regulating organ. Along the way, Schleip shares stories, research, and a few surprises.
š Key Topics:
š Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeĀ
- Book: Fascia in Sport & Movement at Handspring (Get 15% off with coupon code TTP)Ā
- fasciaresearch.de
- somatics.de
- Fascia Research SocietyĀ
Sponsor Offers:Ā
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.Ā
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.Ā
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering āthinkingā at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/,.
- Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at:Ā academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet
- Fascia Research Congress: save $100 when you use the coupon code "THINKING" atĀ https://www.frscongress.org/Ā
š” Join the Conversation: Share your thoughts with us! info@thethinkingpractitioner.comĀ
⨠Rate, review, and share! Help others discover The Thinking Practitioner podcast.
š Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!Ā
- Whitney Loweās site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.comĀ
- Til Luchauās site: Advanced-Trainings.com Ā
About Whitney LoweĀ | About Til LuchauĀ |Ā Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
149: Bodywork through the Polyvagal Lens (with Stephen Porges)
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
šIn this episode, Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe speak with renowned neuroscientist Dr. Stephen Porges, originator of Polyvagal Theory. Together, they explore how our nervous systems respond to cues of safety, how touch can support regulation and connection, and what all this means for bodyworkers and manual therapists.
Dr. Porges shares the latest thinking on co-regulation, trauma, attunement, and the science of feeling safeāalong with practical insights for practitioners working with the body.
š Key Topics:
- 00:00 ā 02:00 Intro, ABMP welcome & framing the Polyvagal lens for bodyworkers
- 02:00 ā 07:00 Early research with Peter Levine and John Cottingham: how structural shifts (pelvic tilt, fascia work) alter autonomic regulation
- 07:00 ā 12:00 Evolutionary foundations: fascia types, diaphragm function, and the hierarchy of autonomic response
- 12:00 ā 17:00 Facial expressivity, voice prosody, and breathing as channels of coāregulation
- 17:00 ā 22:00 Identifying autonomic states (ātightly wrappedā bodies) and choosing whenānot just whereāto touch
- 22:00 ā 27:00 The Body Perception Questionnaire: a tool for mapping clientsā interoceptive awareness
- 27:00 ā 32:00 Trauma, autonomic reactivity, and parsing traumatic events vs. responses
- 32:00 ā 37:00 The Safe and Sound Protocol: acoustic interventions for nervous system safety
- 37:00 ā 42:00 Vagal āhackingā misconceptions: why rhythm and safety signals matter more than stimulation
- 42:00 ā 47:00 Feedback loops: tissue ā nervous system ā fascia ā chronic pain
- 47:00 ā 52:00 Therapist intuition: physiological coāregulation, broadcasting accessibility, therapist selfāstate
- 52:00 ā 57:00 Finding safety in a chaotic world: why therapists need safe colleagues and coāregulation too
- 57:00 ā 60:00+ New resources: Polyvagal Theory: A Science of Safety, the Norton-edited somatic therapies volume, Safe & Sound Protocol book, Our Polyvagal World
š Resources Mentioned in This Episode
 ⢠Polyvagal Theory: A Science of Safety
Stephen W. Porges (2022)
A foundational, peer-reviewed article exploring how our nervous system detects safety and threat.
https://doi.org/10.3389/fnint.2022.871227
⢠Somatic-Oriented Therapies: Embodiment, Trauma, and Polyvagal Perspectives
Edited by H. Grassmann, M. Stupiggia & S. W. Porges (2025)
A rich collection on body-centered therapy approaches and trauma healing through a Polyvagal lens.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1324052724
⢠Safe and Sound: A Polyvagal Approach for Connection, Change, and Healing
Stephen W. Porges & Karen Onderko (2025, Audiobook)
A warm, practical guide to healing and connection through nervous system regulation.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Safe-Sound-Polyvagal-Approach-Connection/dp/B0DGGZLJ3J
⢠Our Polyvagal World: How Safety and Trauma Change Us
Stephen W. Porges & Seth Porges (2023, Audiobook)
A father-son conversation exploring how trauma and safety shape our bodies, brains, and relationships.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0CW5CPPFP
⢠Polyvagal Perspectives: Interventions, Practices, and Strategies
Stephen W. Porges (2024, Audiobook)
Hands-on insights for bringing Polyvagal ideas into therapy, education, and everyday life.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0D9PJQC55
Sponsor Offers:Ā
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.Ā
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.Ā
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering āthinkingā at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/,.
- Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at:Ā academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet
- Fascia Research Congress: save $100 when you use the coupon code "THINKING" atĀ https://www.frscongress.org/Ā
š” Join the Conversation: Share your thoughts with us! info@thethinkingpractitioner.comĀ
⨠Rate, review, and share! Help others discover The Thinking Practitioner podcast.
š Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!Ā
- Whitney Loweās site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.comĀ
- Til Luchauās site: Advanced-Trainings.com Ā
About Whitney LoweĀ | About Til LuchauĀ |Ā Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)