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For the practitioner who’s never stopped being curious. Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe bring together leading researchers, master clinicians, and big questions from across bodywork, massage, and manual therapy — exploring not just what we do with our hands, but why it works and how to do it better. Smart, grounded, and genuinely useful conversations for the somatic arts and sciences.
For professional practitioners in bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedics, sports massage, physical therapy, and osteopathy — as well as yoga, strength and conditioning, and allied professions.
This podcast is not medical or treatment advice.
Episodes

Oct 29, 2025
Oct 29, 2025
54 min
🎙 Celebrating 50 Years of Massage: Benny Vaughn’s Legacy of Professionalism, Perseverance & Touch
Whitney Lowe sits down with legendary massage therapist Benny Vaughn to celebrate his 50 years in the massage and bodywork profession — a career that helped shape modern sports massage, elevate professional standards, and open doors for generations of practitioners.
From his early years breaking racial barriers in sports medicine to his pioneering integration of massage into collegiate and professional athletics, Benny shares powerful stories of courage, mentorship, and the mindset that turns adversity into purpose.
In this conversation, they explore:
• Benny’s beginnings in track & field and how that led him to massage in 1975
• Integrating massage into university and professional sports programs — and how it changed the field
• Overcoming racial and cultural barriers in the Deep South of the 1970s
• The essential mindset shift for success in massage practice
• Why mentorship matters — and how to approach a mentor with respect
• What Benny hopes the next 50 years of massage will bring
This inspiring retrospective honors one of massage therapy’s most influential pioneers — a practitioner who continues to teach, mentor, and elevate the profession every day.
✨ Learn more about Benny Vaughn:
👉 https://bennyvaughnlifecoach.com/
✨ Watch this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://www.youtube.com/@AdvancedTrainings/podcasts
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• Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney’s free Assessment Cheat Sheet at academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet.
• Til’s 2026 Thailand Retreat: use code “thinking” for $100 off Finding Balance in an Out-of-Balance World at a-t.tv/thailand-retreat-2026/.
✨ Connect with us:
Til Luchau: advanced-trainings.com | facebook.com/advancedtrainings | instagram.com/til.luchau
Whitney Lowe: academyofclinicalmassage.com | facebook.com/WhitneyLowe | twitter.com/whitneylowe
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The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.

Oct 15, 2025
Oct 15, 2025
41 min
🎙A better understanding of the very human emotion of disgust can help us navigate boundaries, empathy, and connection in our hands-on work—and in the wider world.
This week, Til welcomes back Todd Hargrove—Certified Rolfer™, movement educator, and author of A Guide to Better Movement and Playing With Movement. Together they explore one of the most primal, and often least examined, human emotions: disgust.
Drawing from psychology, neuroscience, and his years of practice, Todd unpacks disgust as part of our behavioral immune system—a mechanism designed to keep us safe from harm that also influences our moral judgments, client relationships, and social divisions.
In this conversation, they explore:
• How disgust shows up physiologically and emotionally in practitioners and clients
• The difference between protective instinct and unconscious bias
• When disgust serves as a moral compass, and when it drives prejudice or separation
• Practical ways to notice and work with disgust as a signal rather than a verdict
• How turning aversion into curiosity can deepen empathy and compassion in practice
At its heart, this dialogue invites practitioners to see disgust not as something to suppress or be ashamed of, but as a doorway into greater awareness, boundaries, and connection.
✨ Read Todd’s original article on disgust:
👉 https://toddhargrove.substack.com/p/disgust
✨ Learn more about Todd’s books and writing:
👉 https://www.bettermovement.org/books
✨ Watch this episode on YouTube:
👉 https://www.youtube.com/@AdvancedTrainings/podcasts
Sponsor Offers:
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• ABMP: save $24 on new membership at https://www.abmp.com/thinking.
• Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at http://a-t.tv/subscriptions/,.
• Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at: https://www.academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet/
• Til’s upcoming retreat, Finding Balance in an Out-of-Balance World, happening March 2026 in Thailand. Use code “thinking” for $100 off: https://a-t.tv/thailand-retreat-2026/
✨ Connect with us:
• Til Luchau: https://advanced-trainings.com | https://facebook.com/advancedtrainings | https://instagram.com/til.luchau
• Whitney Lowe: https://academyofclinicalmassage.com | https://facebook.com/WhitneyLowe | https://twitter.com/whitneylowe
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The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.

Oct 1, 2025
Oct 1, 2025
1hr 3 min
🎙Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe go deep into the sacroiliac (SI) joints in this listener-favorite rebroadcast of Episode 74, where they unpack anatomy, mechanics, assessment controversies, and treatment strategies. From the relationship between pain, stability, and mobility, to ligamentous support, gait mechanics, and the limits of positional models, they offer both clinical clarity and practical takeaways. Along the way, they share road stories, podcast crossovers, and resources for further learning.
🎧 Listen in for evidence-based insights, hands-on strategies, and nuanced discussion that balances analytical precision with experiential wisdom.
👉Thailand Retreat 2026
Join Til and friends for Finding Balance, an immersive bodywork and movement retreat at a floating retreat center in Thailand. Learn more → https://a-t.tv/thailand-retreat-2026/
🔍Key Points by Time Code:
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00:00 – Sponsor, catch-up & travel stories; 2022 Fascia Research Congress
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03:13 – Today’s focus: sacroiliac joints; Whitney’s Massage & Bodywork article on SI dysfunction
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03:53 – Til’s Ilia/SI online course announcement (now available on demand)
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04:50 – Podcast review shout-out: Hands at the Table reviews Til’s course
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06:11 – Anatomy tour: interlocking joint surfaces, nociceptors, ligament overview
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08:30 – Weight transfer & keystone analogy; iliolumbar, sacrotuberous, sacrospinous ligaments
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13:53 – Pain mechanisms: “culprit or victim?” framing
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15:00 – Motion at the SI joint: small ROM, often misunderstood
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18:01 – Nutation vs. counternutation explained; clinical relevance
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24:50 – Assessment: why provocation tests (Laslett cluster) matter more than positional diagnosis
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28:58 – Treatment approaches: working with sensitivity, remote-site effects, neural target zones
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30:22 – Clinical reasoning: differentiating nerve tension vs. ligament vs. joint capsule
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33:20 – Complexity of models vs. simplicity of sensation-first approaches
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37:14 – Hypermobility paradox: Ehlers-Danlos and individualized load titration
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45:00 – Gait mechanics: contralateral in-/out-flare with each step; self-exploration drills
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46:07 – Lateral tilt, functional vs. structural leg-length differences; heel lift caveats
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58:43 – Self-care: DonTigny-inspired gentle movement in both directions
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59:30 – Course info recap; live & recorded access options
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1:00:42 – Closing sponsor; how to find show notes & rate the podcast
Resources:
- Article: “Current Concepts in Sacroiliac Joint Dysfunction” (free, registration required)
- Training: Ilia & SI Joints: Principles
- Review: the Hands at the Table podcast hosts dissect an AMT Principles course
- Previous TTP SIJ episode: 3: Sacroiliac Joint Pain: Causes, Controversies, and Considerations
- Whitney’s references:
- Physiotutors web clip on Laslett SI joint test cluster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8txpsqHYpQ&t=197s
- Szadek KM, Hoogland P V., Zuurmond WW, de Lange JJ, Perez RS. Nociceptive Nerve Fibers in the Sacroiliac Joint in Humans. Reg Anesth Pain Med. 2008;33(1):36-43. doi:10.1016/j.rapm.2007.07.011
- Bertoldo D, Pirri C, Roviaro B, et al. Pilot study of sacroiliac joint dysfunction treated with a single session of fascial manipulation® method: Clinical implications for effective pain reduction. Med. 2021;57(7):1-11. doi:10.3390/medicina57070691
Sponsor Offers:
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- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/,.
- Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at: academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet
- Til’s upcoming retreat, Finding Balance in an Out-of-Balance World, happening March 2026 in Thailand. Use code “thinking” for $100 off: https://a-t.tv/thailand-retreat-2026/
💡 Join the Conversation: Share your thoughts with us! info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
✨ Rate, review, and share! Help others discover The Thinking Practitioner podcast.
🎁 Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Sep 17, 2025
Sep 17, 2025
44 min
🎙In this special episode recorded live at the 7th International Fascial Research Congress in New Orleans, Til Luchau gathers conversations with leading researchers, educators, and practitioners from around the world. From collagen synthesis breakthroughs to fascia typologies, scar tissue management, mental imagery, and integrative perspectives on touch and movement, this episode captures the excitement and connections at the forefront of fascia research.
🔍Interviews by Time Code:
Sponsor Offers:
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- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/,.
- Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at: academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet
- Til’s upcoming retreat, Finding Balance in an Out-of-Balance World, happening March 2026 in Thailand. Use code “thinking” for $100 off: https://a-t.tv/thailand-retreat-2026/
💡 Join the Conversation: Share your thoughts with us! info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
✨ Rate, review, and share! Help others discover The Thinking Practitioner podcast.
🎁 Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Sep 3, 2025
Sep 3, 2025
36 min
🎙In this intriguing episode, Til and Whitney dig into a recent study that tested the effects of pressure in myofascial release—comparing a traditional pressure-based technique with a light-touch "sham" version. The study measured changes in pain sensitivity, neck mobility, and proprioception.
What did the study find? And what can that teach us about technique, touch, and the therapeutic encounter? Join us as we unpack the design, outcomes, and broader implications of this fascinating study—and reflect on what really makes manual therapy effective.
🔍 Key Topics:
- 00:47 - Study Introduction - Exploring immediate effects of suboccipital myofascial release on pain thresholds, range of motion, and proprioception
- 04:38 - Research Design - Comparing pressure-based technique vs. "sham" light touch treatment in 30 healthy adults
- 08:45 - Sham Treatment Challenges - Why creating control groups is particularly difficult in manual therapy research
- 12:18 - Measurement Methods - Pain pressure threshold, cervical range of motion, and proprioception repositioning tests
- 14:58 - Surprising Results - Both pressure and light touch groups showed similar improvements with no statistical difference
- 18:14 - Contextual Effects - Everything beyond technique that influences outcomes: environment, expectations, touch quality, practitioner skill
- 19:44 - Technique vs. Context Debate - Does this prove technique doesn't matter, or highlight the importance of how we deliver treatment?
- 26:16 - Anatomical Considerations - Suboccipital muscles, proprioceptors, and precision-oriented treatment approaches
- 30:00 - Research Limitations - Small sample size, no follow-up, immediate effects only, practitioner experience factors
- 34:12 - Clinical Takeaways - The "magic" of touch and importance of human connection in therapeutic outcomes
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/,.
- Academy of Clinical Massage: Grab Whitney's valuable Assessment Cheat Sheet for free at: academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet
- Til’s upcoming retreat, Finding Balance in an Out-of-Balance World, happening March 2026 in Thailand. Use code “thinking” for $100 off: https://a-t.tv/thailand-retreat-2026/
💡 Join the Conversation: Share your thoughts with us! info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
✨ Rate, review, and share! Help others discover The Thinking Practitioner podcast.
🎁 Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)
