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Join two of the leading educators in manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy, as they delve into the most intriguing issues, questions, research, and client conditions that hands-on practitioners face. Stimulate your thinking with imaginative conversations, tips, and interviews related to the somatic arts and sciences.
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Wednesday Aug 09, 2023
98: Working in Professional Sports (with Brian Glotzbach)
Wednesday Aug 09, 2023
Wednesday Aug 09, 2023
Brian Glotzbach has been working with high-performance athletes and professional teams for three decades. Whitney talks with Brian about the unique facets of working as a massage therapist in this environment. Things we cover include:
- How to get started and make connections
- Speaking the language of the athletic staff
- What is unique about working with these athletes
- What will make you successful in this environment.
- ...much more
Watch the video and get the full transcript of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites:
- Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com
- Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Resources:
- Connect with Brian: bwglotz@gmail.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
97: Back At It: Back Pain Revisited (with Stuart McGill)
Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe welcome back special guest Dr. Stuart McGill, a distinguished professor emeritus at the University of Waterloo and one of the world's leading experts in back pain and spine health. They discuss:
• Common misconceptions about back pain
• Stiffness and mobility in back pain, and the role of bodywork
• Inflammatory factors in back pain
• Traction and movement techniques to mechanically "vacuum" extruded nucleus and alleviate disc bulges
• The McKenzie prone press-up exercise, and its potential effects on disc bulges and facet joints,
• and more.
Overall, this episode sheds light on the complexities of back pain and offers valuable insights for manual therapists and bodywork practitioners.
Watch the video and get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites:
- Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com
- Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Resources:
- Dr. McGill's previous Thinking Practitioner conversation: Episode 69: Back Pain, Stiffness & Fascia
- Dr. McGill's site: Backfit Pro
- Dr McGill’s patient models and teaching aids: Dynamic Disc Designs
- Til Luchau's upcoming Boulder Colorado, Puerto Rico, and Camino de Santiago events
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Jul 12, 2023
96: Curious Souls (with Aaron Alexander & Sue Hitzmann)
Wednesday Jul 12, 2023
Wednesday Jul 12, 2023
Sue Hitzmann and Aaron Alexander are curious about other people. So how do these two well-known interviewers exercise their curiosity and their "openness muscles?" And, how do they know when their openness is going too far? Listen in as we discuss what makes us feel each good, connecting our personal journeys to our professional work, and much more.
Watch the video and get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites:
- Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com
- Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Resources:
- Sue Hitzmann’s Costa Rican retreat
- Sue’s website MELT Method
- Free trial of Aaron Alexander's Align Method online program
- Aaron's Instagram
- Aaron's Youtube
- Til's Boulder CO, Puerto Rico, and Camino de Santiago events
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
95: Learning to Learn (with Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe)
Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
If we don’t learn, we’re doomed to the same results over and over. But sometimes, we get in the way of our own learning. Can we learn to be better learners? Til takes Whitney on an illustrated tour of some of his favorite obstacles to learning, and gets his help applying these to our work as hands-on practitioners.
Get the slideshow-handout, watch the video, and get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites:
- Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com
- Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Resources:
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Jun 14, 2023
94: Contact Improvisation and Bodywork (with Alicia Grayson)
Wednesday Jun 14, 2023
Wednesday Jun 14, 2023
Til interviews Alicia Grayson, an expert practitioner and teacher of Contact Improvisation dance, about that form’s significance as an embodiment and movement practice. They explore its connection to other forms of movement and therapy, share their personal journeys, and discuss the similarities and differences between Contact Improv and hands-on bodywork, comparing methods and therapeutic goals. They also delve into topics such as the role of gravity, the benefits of touch sensitivity and human connection, as well as highlighting the joy and exploration involved in play.
Check out the video (which includes visual examples of Contact Improv) or get the full transcript of their conversation at Til or Whitney's sites:
- Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com
- Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Resources:
- Alicia’s website and course schedule: aliciagrayson.com
- Contact Improvisation resources, worldwide: ciglobalcalendar.net
- Alicia and Til’s collaborative workshop: https://bit.ly/AMTContactImprovisation
- Film credits (used in video version, by kind permission):
- "In An Old Fascian Way" directed and edited by Sasha Dodo
- camera: Samuel Iwassaki, Veronica Olariu
- dancers: Sasha Dodo and Dolores Dewhurst Marks
- https://towards.contact
- https://youtu.be/X1GPjqxbi-o
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)