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For the practitioner who’s never stopped being curious. Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe bring together leading researchers, master clinicians, and big questions from across bodywork, massage, and manual therapy — exploring not just what we do with our hands, but why it works and how to do it better. Smart, grounded, and genuinely useful conversations for the somatic arts and sciences.
For professional practitioners in bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedics, sports massage, physical therapy, and osteopathy — as well as yoga, strength and conditioning, and allied professions.
This podcast is not medical or treatment advice.
Episodes

Jan 28, 2020
Jan 28, 2020
43 min
Til and Whitney discuss considerations for hands-on work with tendinopathies and tendon issues.
In this episode,
- What is a tendinopathy? Examples?
- Tendinitis vs.tendinosis; tenosynovitis;
- What are typical signs?
- What is known about causes?
- Inflammation or degeneration?
- Collagen, paretenon, fascicles, etc;
- Nerval arborization/sprouting;
- What’s manual therapy’s role?
- Approaches, debates, consensus;
- And much more...
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources discussed in this episode:
- Chen PC, Wu KT, Chou WY, et al. Comparative Effectiveness of Different Nonsurgical Treatments for Patellar Tendinopathy: A Systematic Review and Network Meta-analysis. Arthrosc - J Arthrosc Relat Surg. 2019;35(11):3117-3131.e2. doi:10.1016/j.arthro.2019.06.017
- Cook JL, Purdam C. Is compressive load a factor in the development of tendinopathy? Br J Sports Med. 2012;46(3):163-168. doi:10.1136/bjsports-2011-090414,
- Lederman E. The Science and Practice of Manual Therapy. 2n3 ed. Edinburgh: Elsevier; 2005.
- Murtaugh B, Ihm JM. Eccentric training for the treatment of tendinopathies. Curr Sports Med Rep. 1987;12(3):175-182. doi:10.1249/JSR.0b013e3182933761,
- Lipman K, Wang C, Ting K, Soo C, Zheng Z. Tendinopathy: Injury, repair, and current exploration. Drug Des Devel Ther. 2018;12:591-603. doi:10.2147/DDDT.S154660,
- Witvrouw E, Mahieu N, Roosen P, McNair P. The role of stretching in tendon injuries. Br J Sport Med. 2007;41(4):224-226.
- Van Der Vlist AC, Breda SJ, Oei EHG, Verhaar JAN, De Vos RJ. Clinical risk factors for Achilles tendinopathy: A systematic review. Br J Sports Med. 2019;53(21):1352-1361. doi:10.1136/bjsports-2018-099991
- AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Advanced-Trainings.com
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About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Jan 15, 2020
Jan 15, 2020
46 min
Whitney talks with Diana Thompson about documentation, health records, and including massage therapy in mainstream healthcare practices.
In this episode,
- Introducing Diana Thompson,
- History of Hands Heal and SOAP documentation for massage therapy,
- Washington’s “every category of provider” clause,
- Electronic health records and the future of clinical documentation,
- and more.
Join two of the leading educators in manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy, as they delve into the most intriguing issues, questions, research, and client conditions that hands-on practitioners face. Stimulate your thinking with imaginative conversations, tips, and interviews related to the somatic arts and sciences. With Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau.
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources discussed in this episode:
- Hands Heal Electronic Health Record: https://www.handshealehr.com/
- AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Jan 1, 2020
Jan 1, 2020
41 min
Til and Whitney talk about the key challenges and opportunities facing manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy. (Part 1 of 2)
In this episode,
- Aging practitioners, younger students,
- Split personality of the profession,
- The epidemic of over-busyness,
- Income issues,
- and more.
(Part 2 of this conversation is scheduled to be released as Episode 8 on Feb 26, 2020.)
Join two of the leading educators in manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy, as they delve into the most intriguing issues, questions, research, and client conditions that hands-on practitioners face. Stimulate your thinking with imaginative conversations, tips, and interviews related to the somatic arts and sciences. With Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau.
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources discussed in this episode:
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Dec 17, 2019
Dec 17, 2019
43 min
Til and Whitney discuss sacroiliac joint pain and hand-on therapies: causes, controversies, and considerations.
In this episode,
- What causes SIJ pain?
- Does the SIJ move a little, or a lot?
- What about hypermobility?
- What are the controversies?
- What does the research say?
- Key considerations for manual therapists,
- and much more.
Join two of the leading educators in manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy, as they delve into the most intriguing issues, questions, research, and client conditions that hands-on practitioners face. Stimulate your thinking with imaginative conversations, tips, and interviews related to the somatic arts and sciences. With Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau.
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources discussed in this episode:
- Laslett 2008 (Descriptive, questions of manual therapy approaches; good cataloging of diagnostics) http://ahpsuffolk.co.uk/Portals/1/Users/159/59/159/Laslett%20SIJ.pdf
- Palsson 2019 (Lehman et al questioning the narratives and nocebic effects of "pathoanatomical thinking.") https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31355883
- Booth 2019 (BPS-informed; great one to read if you have time for just one) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1521694219300178
- AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Dec 17, 2019
Dec 17, 2019
32 min
Til and Whitney interview each other about their backgrounds, histories, and current interests. Part 2 of 2.
Join two of the leading educators in manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy, as they delve into the most intriguing issues, questions, research, and client conditions that hands-on practitioners face. Stimulate your thinking with imaginative conversations, tips, and interviews related to the somatic arts and sciences. With Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau.
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources discussed in this episode:
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: enter “TTP” at checkout for a discount at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)
