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Join two of the leading educators in manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy, as they delve into the most intriguing issues, questions, research, and client conditions that hands-on practitioners face. Stimulate your thinking with imaginative conversations, tips, and interviews related to the somatic arts and sciences.
Episodes

Wednesday Aug 23, 2023
99: Wait, What? Fascial Stiffness & Pain (with Robert Schleip)
Wednesday Aug 23, 2023
Wednesday Aug 23, 2023
Tight tissue is more painful, right? And, helping bodies be less stiff makes them feel better, doesn’t it? Fascial researcher Robert Schleip shares new research that contradicts these commonly held (but rarely examined) assumptions, and helps us think through how we, as body therapy practitioners, can apply this new understanding to our work. Tune in for a nuanced conversation that sheds light on our evolving understanding of fascia, stiffness, and pain.
Watch the video and get the full transcript of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites:
- Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com
- Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Resources:
- Dr Schleip’s original Facebook post about this study
- The study featured in the episode:
- Also cited by Dr Schleip in this episode:
- Dr Schleip on Instagram
- Dr Schleip on Facebook
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About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Aug 09, 2023
98: Working in Professional Sports (with Brian Glotzbach)
Wednesday Aug 09, 2023
Wednesday Aug 09, 2023
Brian Glotzbach has been working with high-performance athletes and professional teams for three decades. Whitney talks with Brian about the unique facets of working as a massage therapist in this environment. Things we cover include:
- How to get started and make connections
- Speaking the language of the athletic staff
- What is unique about working with these athletes
- What will make you successful in this environment.
- ...much more
Watch the video and get the full transcript of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites:
- Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com
- Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Resources:
- Connect with Brian: bwglotz@gmail.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
97: Back At It: Back Pain Revisited (with Stuart McGill)
Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe welcome back special guest Dr. Stuart McGill, a distinguished professor emeritus at the University of Waterloo and one of the world's leading experts in back pain and spine health. They discuss:
• Common misconceptions about back pain
• Stiffness and mobility in back pain, and the role of bodywork
• Inflammatory factors in back pain
• Traction and movement techniques to mechanically "vacuum" extruded nucleus and alleviate disc bulges
• The McKenzie prone press-up exercise, and its potential effects on disc bulges and facet joints,
• and more.
Overall, this episode sheds light on the complexities of back pain and offers valuable insights for manual therapists and bodywork practitioners.
Watch the video and get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites:
- Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com
- Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Resources:
- Dr. McGill's previous Thinking Practitioner conversation: Episode 69: Back Pain, Stiffness & Fascia
- Dr. McGill's site: Backfit Pro
- Dr McGill’s patient models and teaching aids: Dynamic Disc Designs
- Til Luchau's upcoming Boulder Colorado, Puerto Rico, and Camino de Santiago events
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Jul 12, 2023
96: Curious Souls (with Aaron Alexander & Sue Hitzmann)
Wednesday Jul 12, 2023
Wednesday Jul 12, 2023
Sue Hitzmann and Aaron Alexander are curious about other people. So how do these two well-known interviewers exercise their curiosity and their "openness muscles?" And, how do they know when their openness is going too far? Listen in as we discuss what makes us feel each good, connecting our personal journeys to our professional work, and much more.
Watch the video and get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites:
- Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com
- Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Resources:
- Sue Hitzmann’s Costa Rican retreat
- Sue’s website MELT Method
- Free trial of Aaron Alexander's Align Method online program
- Aaron's Instagram
- Aaron's Youtube
- Til's Boulder CO, Puerto Rico, and Camino de Santiago events
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
95: Learning to Learn (with Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe)
Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
If we don’t learn, we’re doomed to the same results over and over. But sometimes, we get in the way of our own learning. Can we learn to be better learners? Til takes Whitney on an illustrated tour of some of his favorite obstacles to learning, and gets his help applying these to our work as hands-on practitioners.
Get the slideshow-handout, watch the video, and get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites:
- Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com
- Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Resources:
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout at booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Advanced-Trainings: try a month of the amazing A-T Subscription free by entering “thinking” at checkout at a-t.tv/subscriptions/.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)