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Join two of the leading educators in manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy, as they delve into the most intriguing issues, questions, research, and client conditions that hands-on practitioners face. Stimulate your thinking with imaginative conversations, tips, and interviews related to the somatic arts and sciences.
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Wednesday Dec 01, 2021
53: Fascia: A Deep Dive (with Dr. Antonio Stecco)
Wednesday Dec 01, 2021
Wednesday Dec 01, 2021
Til and Whitney speak with fascial researcher, anatomist, and manual therapy teacher Antonio Stecco MD PhD about his research in to fascial properties, pain, and the effects of hands-on work.
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources discussed in this episode:
- Dr Stecco’s research and publications (NYU)
- FM app on the Apple Store and Google Play
- Dr Stecco’s site: fascialmanipulation.com
- Papers mentioned in the episode:
- Gerber et al., “A Systematic Comparison Between Subjects With No Pain and Pain Associated With Active Myofascial Trigger Points.”
- Langevin, Helene M. et al. “Reduced Thoracolumbar Fascia Shear Strain in Human Chronic Low Back Pain.” BMC Musculoskeletal Disorders 12, no. 1 (December 2011): 203. https://doi.org/10.1186/1471-2474-12-203.
- Stecco, Antonio at al. “Ultrasonography in Myofascial Neck Pain: Randomized Clinical Trial for Diagnosis and Follow-Up.” Surgical and Radiologic Anatomy 36, no. 3 (April 2014): 243–53. https://doi.org/10.1007/s00276-013-1185-2.
- Whitney Lowe’s Online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
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- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Nov 17, 2021
52: Orthopedic Special Tests (with Whitney Lowe)
Wednesday Nov 17, 2021
Wednesday Nov 17, 2021
Til interviews Whitney about his use of Orthopedic Special Tests. Topics include:
- The promise and the reality of special tests
- Pros, cons, and controversies
- When to use them, when not to.
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources discussed in this episode:
- Lowe, Whitney. “Suggested Variations on Standard Carpal Tunnel Syndrome Assessment Tests.” Journal of Bodywork and Movement Therapies 12, no. 2 (April 2008): 151–57. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jbmt.2007.04.001.
- Hegedus, Eric J, Alexis A Wright, and Chad Cook. “Orthopaedic Special Tests and Diagnostic Accuracy Studies: House Wine Served in Very Cheap Containers.” British Journal of Sports Medicine 51, no. 22 (November 2017): 1578–79. https://doi.org/10.1136/bjsports-2017-097633. And, Cook, Chad. “The Lost Art of the Clinical Examination: An Overemphasis on Clinical Special Tests.” Journal of Manual & Manipulative Therapy 18, no. 1 (March 2010): 3–4. https://doi.org/10.1179/106698110X12595770849362.
- TTP Podcast Episode: “23: Do Expectations Shape Results? (with Mark Bishop)”
- The Shoulder Jam (Whitney’s charts)
- Cook, Chad, and Eric J. Hegedus. Orthopedic Physical Examination Tests: An Evidence-Based Approach. 2nd ed. Upper Saddle River, N.J: Pearson Education, 2013.
- Zulak, David. Clinical Assessment for Massage Therapy: A Practical Guide. Edinburgh: Handspring Publishing, 2018. (Save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout.
- Whitney Lowe’s Online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Nov 03, 2021
51: Neuroinflammation (with Todd Hargrove)
Wednesday Nov 03, 2021
Wednesday Nov 03, 2021
Til & Whitney talk with Todd Hargrove of the Better Movement blog and podcast about neuroinflammation and its role in pain and health. Topics include:
- What is neuroinflammation, and how is it relevant to hands-on work?
- How does the concept of the "neuro-immune system" change things?
- What are our levers for helping with neuroinflammatory conditions?
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources discussed in this episode:
- “Neuroinflammation: A common factor in many chronic health problems" blog post
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Thursday Oct 21, 2021
50: A View Across The Border (with Jamie Johnston & Eric Purves)
Thursday Oct 21, 2021
Thursday Oct 21, 2021
Whitney interviews Jamie Johnston and Eric Purves
Topics include:
- How does massage education differ in the U.S. and Canada
- How have things changed with the adoption of educational competencies for MTs in British Columbia
- Should we keep performing special orthopedic tests if they aren't considered as accurate?
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources discussed in this episode:
-
Hegedus, E. J., Wright, A. A., & Cook, C. (2017). Orthopaedic special tests and diagnostic accuracy studies: House wine served in very cheap containers. British Journal of Sports Medicine, 51(22), 1578–1579. https://doi.org/10.1136/bjsports-2017-097633
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Oct 06, 2021
49: Interoception Is The Key, Like It Or Not (with Til Luchau)
Wednesday Oct 06, 2021
Wednesday Oct 06, 2021
Whitney interviews Til about his upcoming “Three Questions About Interoception” article in Massage & Bodywork magazine. Topics include:
- What is interoception, and why should I care?
- Is interoception our profession’s “mindfulness?”
- How can I actually use interoception with my clients?
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
Resources discussed in this episode:
- “Three Questions about Interoception” article in Massage & Bodywork November/December 2021
- Whitney Lowe’s site: AcademyOfClinicalMassage.com
- Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)