The Thinking Practitioner

🎙In this thought-provoking episode, Til and Whitney welcome back fascia researcher Robert Schleip to explore the evolving science behind fascia’s role in emotional regulation, inflammation, and sensory experience. They dive into Schleip’s keynote for the upcoming 7th International Fascia Research Congress and discuss emerging research on fascia as a dynamic neuro-immune interface.

Robert shares his updates on fascinating insights into attention, depression, touch, circadian rhythms, and how fascia may bridge body and mind in ways we’re only beginning to understand.

🕑 Key Topics

• 04:15 – Schleip’s keynote preview: fascia, emotion, and immune interaction

• 06:09 – The new direction of the 2025 Fascia Research Congress

• 07:55 – Polyvagal theory and fascia: Schleip on Porges and the vagus nerve

• 12:15 – Fascia and depression: new findings on thickened epimysium

• 20:47 – Foam rolling, mindful attention, and emotional filtering in depression

• 26:12 – Reticular formation, attention, and touch outcomes

• 32:07 – Therapist vs client attention: new data on treatment impact

• 37:12 – The history and evolution of the Fascia Research Congress

• 44:04 – Fascia, safety, and perceptual context

• 48:00 – Sliding fascia and emotional stress: 48-hour delay and resilience

• 51:40 – New paradigm: from force transmission to circadian rhythms and synthesis

• 56:21 – Schleip’s takeaway: return to wonder and curiosity under the stars

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📌 Sponsored by: ABMP and Books of Discovery, with in-kind support from the Fascia Research Society

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🎙Cal Cates returns to The Thinking Practitioner to explore the essential role massage therapy can play in palliative and end-of-life care. In conversation with Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe, Cal shares practical insights, personal stories, and the philosophy behind Healwell’s innovative mPATH training program. Together they unpack ways that all massage therapists and bodyworkers can better support patients, caregivers, and care teams—not by fixing, but by listening, noticing, and showing up with presence.

🌟 Key Topics:

• [04:37] What is palliative care—and where massage therapy fits

• [07:15] The cultural fear of dying and how it limits care

• [11:38] Common assumptions therapists make about palliative care

• [13:21] Massage therapy is palliative care—philosophically and practically

• [16:36] Caregiver stress: why the family is the “unit of care”

• [20:23] Communication as the primary intervention in palliative settings

• [24:06] How therapeutic touch invites emotional openness

• [25:44] Self-regulation and presence as clinical skills

• [31:38] Cal’s personal story: how they began this work

• [36:39] Are we making progress as a culture in facing death?

• [38:37] Skills and mindsets bodyworkers can cultivate

• [46:16] The mPATH program: advanced training for palliative care massage

• [52:21] What can go wrong without proper preparation

• [57:13] Technique is important—but presence makes it land

• [58:17] Resources and where to learn more

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📌 Sponsored by: ABMP and Books of Discovery, with in-kind support from the Fascia Research Society

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🎙Til Luchau speaks with physiotherapist and fascia researcher Fabiana Silva about the emerging connections between fascia, the vagus nerve, and systemic inflammation. They explore both the science and the practical applications of manual therapy, transcutaneous vagus nerve stimulation, and the challenges of clinical research in the hands-on healing arts. Fabiana is also the President of the Fascia Research Society, and shares highlights from the upcoming 2025 Fascia Research Congress in New Orleans.

🎧 Tune in to learn how fascia influences vagal tone, inflammation, mood, and more — and how practitioners can work more effectively with these systems.

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