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Join two of the leading educators in manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy, as they delve into the most intriguing issues, questions, research, and client conditions that hands-on practitioners face. Stimulate your thinking with imaginative conversations, tips, and interviews related to the somatic arts and sciences.
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Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
63: Turnabout is Fair Play: Our Favorite Perspective Reversals
Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
People change their minds--sometimes, radically. Learning, improving, refining, all involve changing how we saw things before. But is there a cost? And what makes changing our views such a challenge? Whitney and Til compare notes about how their perspectives have taken a 180° from how they used to think, and, about how that's played out.
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
- Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses
- Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com
Resources mentioned
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Todd Hargrove: Three Reasons It Matters Why A Treatment Works (blog)
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Til Luchau: The Sympathetic Sacrum: A Rose by Another Name? (article)
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Freakonomics: How to Change Your Mind (podcast)
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- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Apr 06, 2022
62: Educational Innovations (with Anne Williams and Eric Brown)
Wednesday Apr 06, 2022
Wednesday Apr 06, 2022
Whitney talks with Anne Williams and Eric Brown about innovations in education.
They delve into these important topics: such as:
-Early explorations of online education, podcasting, and the World Massage Conference
-Why instructional design and educational theory matter in education?
-New frontiers in the publishing of digital textbooks
…and much more.
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
- Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses
- Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com
Resources mentioned
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Mar 23, 2022
61: Massage Therapy Research (with Niki Munk)
Wednesday Mar 23, 2022
Wednesday Mar 23, 2022
Whitney talks with Niki Munk about massage therapy research.
They delve into these important topics: such as:
-What are levels of evidence and why does this matter?
-Why should massage therapists care about research?
-How to get involved with research
-Challenges of massage education existing outside traditional academic models
…and much more.
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
- Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses
- Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com
Resources mentioned
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Mar 09, 2022
60: Physical Therapy Assisting and Massage (with Matt Gavzy)
Wednesday Mar 09, 2022
Wednesday Mar 09, 2022
Whitney talks with massage therapist and physical therapy assistant Matt Gavzy about working in a team practice with other professionals, and about integrating massage therapy with physical therapy approaches.
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
- Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses
- Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com
Episode Resources
- Matt Gavzy's contact info:
- Email: bodyworkingsmt@gmail.com
- Phone: 201-410-7855
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Feb 23, 2022
59: What Influenced You? (with Whitney Lowe & Til Luchau)
Wednesday Feb 23, 2022
Wednesday Feb 23, 2022
Whitney and Til compare notes about the major influences on their own careers, and along the way discuss topics such as:
-The development of massage and bodywork education and practice
-Their Esalen Institute and Emory University crossroads
-The role of lineage, teacher personality, and standards
-The evolution of online learning
-Mentors and mentoring
…and much more.
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites!
- Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses
- Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)