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Join two of the leading educators in manual therapy, bodywork, and massage therapy, as they delve into the most intriguing issues, questions, research, and client conditions that hands-on practitioners face. Stimulate your thinking with imaginative conversations, tips, and interviews related to the somatic arts and sciences.
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Wednesday Nov 16, 2022
79: Hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos, Fascia, and Pain (with Tina Wang)
Wednesday Nov 16, 2022
Wednesday Nov 16, 2022
Does stiff fascia hurt because it's stiff? Why then is there pain with the softer-tissue patterns of hypermobility and Ehlers-Danlos syndromes? Dr. Tina Wang's fascinating research (as well as her own story) helps shed some light on this paradox. Check out the video of her Thinking Practitioner conversation on Til or Whitney's sites:
- Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com
- Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage
Resources:
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Dr Wang's clinical practice https://tupelopointe.com/
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Dr Wang's neurofascialinflammation seminars including hEDS course: https://www.thebraincelledu.com/seminars
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Wang, Tina J., and Antonio Stecco. “Fascial Thickness and Stiffness in Hypermobile Ehlers‐Danlos Syndrome.” American Journal of Medical Genetics Part C: Seminars in Medical Genetics 187, no. 4 (December 2021): 446–52. https://doi.org/10.1002/ajmg.c.31948.
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Wang, Tina, Roya Vahdatinia, Sarah Humbert, and Antonio Stecco. “Myofascial Injection Using Fascial Layer-Specific Hydromanipulation Technique (FLuSH) and the Delineation of Multifactorial Myofascial Pain.” Medicina (Kaunas, Lithuania) 56, no. 12 (December 20, 2020): 717. https://doi.org/10.3390/medicina56120717.
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About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Nov 02, 2022
78: More Carrots, or More Sticks? The Continuing Education Conundrum
Wednesday Nov 02, 2022
Wednesday Nov 02, 2022
Most everyone agrees that the current system of continuing professional education (CE or CPD) for massage and manual therapy has problems. Should CE requirements simply be abolished? Or is even more regulation needed? Whitney and Til think these things through and come up with individual and system-wide options. Check out the video of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites:
- Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses
- Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com
Resources:
- Julie Onofrio’s post “The Continuing CE Conundrum in the Massage Profession”
- Whitney Lowe’s “The Future of Advanced Massage Credentialing”
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Oct 19, 2022
77: The Future of the Profession (with Sandy Fritz)
Wednesday Oct 19, 2022
Wednesday Oct 19, 2022
Whitney has a conversation with Sandy Fritz on her vision of the current and future state of the profession.
- How the current economic situation has impacted the massage profession
- Innovative changes with the ICMT
- The migration of massage employment to a "job"
- Challenges with massage employees
- How to work full time
- Ergonomic challenges in our field
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites:
- Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses
- Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com
Resources:
- International Consortium of Manual Therapies: https://www.icmtconference.org/
- Health Enrichment Center: https://www.healthenrichment.com/
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Wednesday Oct 05, 2022
76: Fascia Research Congress Highlights (with Whitney Lowe & Til Luchau)
Wednesday Oct 05, 2022
Wednesday Oct 05, 2022
Til & Whitney share their takeaways, impressions, and highlights from the recent 6th International Fascia Research Congress in Montreal. Topics include:
- New research correlating tissue qualities with depression
- Biomechanics of thoracolumbar fascia
- Counterintuitive findings about Ehlers-Danlos
- Fascia and elastic recoil
- Should we massage tumors?
Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites:
- Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses
- Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com
Resources:
- Robert Schleip's recent article in Massage & Bodywork magazine: The Fascial Network; Our Richest Sensory Organ
- The Fascia Research Congress info page for speaker info, recordings and 2025 dates: https://fasciaresearchsociety.org.
Sponsor Offers:
- Til's next Principles training: Ilia & SI Joints: Principles first lecture: Oct 5, 2022
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)

Monday Sep 26, 2022
Monday Sep 26, 2022
Unbeknownst to us, the hosts of the 'Hands at the Table' podcast recorded and aired a “secret shopper” episode about one of Til Luchau’s most popular online CE classes. Listen in as they dissect and review the course, bit-by-excruciating-bit.
(And, you can find out more about Til’s next Principles course, live or by recording, at Advanced-Trainings.com.)
In this episode:
- Were the techniques useful?
- How was the course structured?
- Can something like this even be learned at a distance?
Get the transcript of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites:
- Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses
- Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com
Resources:
- Til's next Principles training: Ilia & SI Joints: Principles
Free intro: Sep 28, first lecture: Oct 5, 2022 - The original review: the Hands at the Table podcast dissects Til Luchau's AMT Principles course
- Bori is on Instagram at: @bori_suranyi_lmt
- Jeff is on Instagram at: @jbramhall
Sponsor Offers:
- Books of Discovery: save 15% by entering "thinking" at checkout on booksofdiscovery.com.
- ABMP: save $24 on new membership at abmp.com/thinking.
- Handspring Publishing: save 20% by entering “TTP” at checkout at handspringpublishing.com.
About Whitney Lowe | About Til Luchau | Email Us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com
(The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies: bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedic, sports massage, physical therapy, osteopathy, yoga, strength and conditioning, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.)
